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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-176605</link>
		<author>Tommy</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an American Nigel Bird.

But I am sick and fucking tired of being stereoptyped with all of the war mongerers that control our country, so keep your idealistic statements to your self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an American Nigel Bird.</p>
<p>But I am sick and fucking tired of being stereoptyped with all of the war mongerers that control our country, so keep your idealistic statements to your self.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-116210</link>
		<author>Nigel Bird</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-116210</guid>
		<description>Strange that no record exist regards the ppl of Iraq's request to be given the marvelled freedom issued ot like candy by the American Government. Liig in South Africa I see the need for US troops to be withdrawn from Iraq because in the first place it is upon the persuence further of economic affluence they will never share in or gain access to that they find themselves in a place without choice. In addition to that it should be broight to all of your attention that the US administration was the key decision maker behind putting Saddam Husein into the positin of power he occupied. ..... there are just so many loose ends surrounding this issue and unpacking them with a sence of Bruta Honesty is of utmost importance - CAN YOU AMERICANS DO THAT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange that no record exist regards the ppl of Iraq&#8217;s request to be given the marvelled freedom issued ot like candy by the American Government. Liig in South Africa I see the need for US troops to be withdrawn from Iraq because in the first place it is upon the persuence further of economic affluence they will never share in or gain access to that they find themselves in a place without choice. In addition to that it should be broight to all of your attention that the US administration was the key decision maker behind putting Saddam Husein into the positin of power he occupied. &#8230;.. there are just so many loose ends surrounding this issue and unpacking them with a sence of Bruta Honesty is of utmost importance - CAN YOU AMERICANS DO THAT?</p>
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		<title>By: Klayton</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-70740</link>
		<author>Klayton</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-70740</guid>
		<description>Question for you military folks out there. Does it piss you guys off when the Bush administration busts out with the "you are not supporting our troops"/"you are undermining our troops" shtick whenever someone disagrees with their foreign policy decisions? Do you feel used when Bush poses in front of some solders and a big American flag in order to sway American public opinion by implying that the troops support his politics? Just wondering because it would drive me crazy.

One other question, does any of the profit from those magnetic ribbons go toward supporting out troops or is someone buying a new Mercedes with the profits? The packaging doesnâ€™t say anything about where the money goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for you military folks out there. Does it piss you guys off when the Bush administration busts out with the &#8220;you are not supporting our troops&#8221;/&#8221;you are undermining our troops&#8221; shtick whenever someone disagrees with their foreign policy decisions? Do you feel used when Bush poses in front of some solders and a big American flag in order to sway American public opinion by implying that the troops support his politics? Just wondering because it would drive me crazy.</p>
<p>One other question, does any of the profit from those magnetic ribbons go toward supporting out troops or is someone buying a new Mercedes with the profits? The packaging doesnâ€™t say anything about where the money goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-47323</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-47323</guid>
		<description>I think most of the troops in a volunteer army legitimately believe they are fighting for their countries' ideals. However, I also think they underestimate the selfishness and maliciousness of their leaders.

To join any military is courageous and honorable, but it is also putting yourself at the mercy of your leaders, who are almost always terrible people who would send you to your death for personal gain.

Reasons like WMD, terrorism, freedom, and democracy are only used to rally support because leaders know the general population consists of decent people. The truth is that all wars are about power and money, and nothing else.

But such is the world...

Please don't join any army if you can afford not to. If you already have, good luck, and I hope you come home unhurt. No one, on either side, deserves all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most of the troops in a volunteer army legitimately believe they are fighting for their countries&#8217; ideals. However, I also think they underestimate the selfishness and maliciousness of their leaders.</p>
<p>To join any military is courageous and honorable, but it is also putting yourself at the mercy of your leaders, who are almost always terrible people who would send you to your death for personal gain.</p>
<p>Reasons like WMD, terrorism, freedom, and democracy are only used to rally support because leaders know the general population consists of decent people. The truth is that all wars are about power and money, and nothing else.</p>
<p>But such is the world&#8230;</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t join any army if you can afford not to. If you already have, good luck, and I hope you come home unhurt. No one, on either side, deserves all this.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonesome Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-43771</link>
		<author>Lonesome Jack</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 03:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-43771</guid>
		<description>I'm an Iraq veteran, and I'm going back in May.

For all of you who support the war, realize this:  Nobody wants it to be over more than we do.

For all of you who condone it and try to make us victims:  Our military is made of nothing but volunteers.  We know what we're getting into, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an Iraq veteran, and I&#8217;m going back in May.</p>
<p>For all of you who support the war, realize this:  Nobody wants it to be over more than we do.</p>
<p>For all of you who condone it and try to make us victims:  Our military is made of nothing but volunteers.  We know what we&#8217;re getting into, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-43770</link>
		<author>Tommy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 03:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-43770</guid>
		<description>Couldn't have said it better man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said it better man.</p>
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		<title>By: Stupu</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-42553</link>
		<author>Stupu</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-42553</guid>
		<description>I have to say all these people complaining about their sons and daughter's dying in Iraq kinda gets on my nerves... they (the soldiers) made a conscious choice to risk their lives representing their country, wherever they were sent.  The very concept of the military is to have a larger more advanced group of people kill the less capable people on the other side.

   War sucks, no doubt, but what right does anyone have to complain when the war is being fought literally thousands of miles away.  Remember that the people who live in Iraq (the ones who were invaded) now have personal freedom to a far greater extent than before the invasion.  The minority who disagreed fought back, as you would expect, there are just more of them who are better skilled than either of our governments expected, and this is why their are still troops in Iraq... it's also why there are more being sent in there.  You can't start something like this (i.e. bringing democracy to a dictatorship, run by a man who practically everyone in the free world hated) then say "well... we've installed a new democracy, they've chosen a leader, and the people who lost the election are blowing up buildings... we're gonna get outta here before some of our people die"

   Face it, the only real way to deal with this issue and minimize all casualties is to send in more people to back them up.  If they leave now, all that they have fought for and their comrades died for will be lost within a few years, with the fall of democratic leadership.


   Wait... how did I get to this kind of argument? Ahh, who cares, I kind of like the point I made and took too long writing it to delete it.  Think what you will.


   Anyhoo, the armies of both our nations are filled basically with 2 kinds of people - Those who wanted to join the army, and those who dropped out of high school and didn't want to make the effort to get qualified afterward.  I'm not saying high-school dropouts deserve to die, quite the opposite, they have been the main contributors to our war efforts for decades.  But what I am saying is that if they saw risking death as a decent alternative to further education, then that is their choice, and if they die out there, that is their choice as well, whether they pull the trigger or not.

   Complaining that people's children die in these wars is a waste of everybody's time, it gets us nowhere and leaves us in the realms of letting emotions decide what we should do. Emotions are a valuable asset in decision making, but if you think about it, unless you look at the cold, hard facts, you're making the same sort of decisions as a psychopath, or a fanatic: what you THINK is all that matters in it, what you COULD KNOW has no bearing on it whatsoever.


Anyways, that's my daily half-rant over with. Thanks for reading some of it at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say all these people complaining about their sons and daughter&#8217;s dying in Iraq kinda gets on my nerves&#8230; they (the soldiers) made a conscious choice to risk their lives representing their country, wherever they were sent.  The very concept of the military is to have a larger more advanced group of people kill the less capable people on the other side.</p>
<p>   War sucks, no doubt, but what right does anyone have to complain when the war is being fought literally thousands of miles away.  Remember that the people who live in Iraq (the ones who were invaded) now have personal freedom to a far greater extent than before the invasion.  The minority who disagreed fought back, as you would expect, there are just more of them who are better skilled than either of our governments expected, and this is why their are still troops in Iraq&#8230; it&#8217;s also why there are more being sent in there.  You can&#8217;t start something like this (i.e. bringing democracy to a dictatorship, run by a man who practically everyone in the free world hated) then say &#8220;well&#8230; we&#8217;ve installed a new democracy, they&#8217;ve chosen a leader, and the people who lost the election are blowing up buildings&#8230; we&#8217;re gonna get outta here before some of our people die&#8221;</p>
<p>   Face it, the only real way to deal with this issue and minimize all casualties is to send in more people to back them up.  If they leave now, all that they have fought for and their comrades died for will be lost within a few years, with the fall of democratic leadership.</p>
<p>   Wait&#8230; how did I get to this kind of argument? Ahh, who cares, I kind of like the point I made and took too long writing it to delete it.  Think what you will.</p>
<p>   Anyhoo, the armies of both our nations are filled basically with 2 kinds of people - Those who wanted to join the army, and those who dropped out of high school and didn&#8217;t want to make the effort to get qualified afterward.  I&#8217;m not saying high-school dropouts deserve to die, quite the opposite, they have been the main contributors to our war efforts for decades.  But what I am saying is that if they saw risking death as a decent alternative to further education, then that is their choice, and if they die out there, that is their choice as well, whether they pull the trigger or not.</p>
<p>   Complaining that people&#8217;s children die in these wars is a waste of everybody&#8217;s time, it gets us nowhere and leaves us in the realms of letting emotions decide what we should do. Emotions are a valuable asset in decision making, but if you think about it, unless you look at the cold, hard facts, you&#8217;re making the same sort of decisions as a psychopath, or a fanatic: what you THINK is all that matters in it, what you COULD KNOW has no bearing on it whatsoever.</p>
<p>Anyways, that&#8217;s my daily half-rant over with. Thanks for reading some of it at least.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-40597</link>
		<author>billy</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-40597</guid>
		<description>We should have an military that doesn't ever have to fight. The risk of dying is just too great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should have an military that doesn&#8217;t ever have to fight. The risk of dying is just too great.</p>
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		<title>By: sean coon</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-39514</link>
		<author>sean coon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-39514</guid>
		<description>thanks, jason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, jason.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-39511</link>
		<author>Jason</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seancoon.org/2007/02/graffiti_fridaythe_real_deal.html#comment-39511</guid>
		<description>Well, I dont agree with war to a certain extent. In my mind, they should have just said " We want to free the ppl of Iraq from the pain their dictator causes". That would have been a better statement i believe. I believe in helping the people. I have seen how gratefull they are of the freedom we have given them. That should have been it though. We should have been home by now. I honestly dont believe we are going to transform that country or any other country in that region. They have been living that way for ages. I made a decision to enlist. I raised my hand. I volunteered. That doesnt mean that when they tell me im getting deployed, I sing and jump around with joy. Some one has to do what others want, and in this case its us. Thats my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I dont agree with war to a certain extent. In my mind, they should have just said &#8221; We want to free the ppl of Iraq from the pain their dictator causes&#8221;. That would have been a better statement i believe. I believe in helping the people. I have seen how gratefull they are of the freedom we have given them. That should have been it though. We should have been home by now. I honestly dont believe we are going to transform that country or any other country in that region. They have been living that way for ages. I made a decision to enlist. I raised my hand. I volunteered. That doesnt mean that when they tell me im getting deployed, I sing and jump around with joy. Some one has to do what others want, and in this case its us. Thats my view.</p>
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