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The Insider: Chuck D
by Andy Langer
WHO: Chuck D, 20-year leader of Public Enemy, the seminal hip-hop group whose 1990 LP, Fear of a Black Planet, was recently chosen by the Library of Congress for a list of 50 recordings worthy of inclusion in the National Recording Registry.
Austin Chronicle: Once again, it seems like best of the times and the worst of times for hip-hop.
Chuck D: It always is. That’s our history. But I think right now hip-hop’s value is too often weighed in quantity, not quality. When you just talk about business, I tell people slavery was a booming business in America, one of the strongest businesses America ever had. It was morally and ethically corrupt and bankrupt. We have to watch ourselves when we measure the success of something based wholly on numbers.
AC: Isn’t the nature of the record business to focus on dollars and cents?
CD: Sure, but I think its lack of emotional attachment to the art and music has really hurt in the digital transition. To me, a lot of the people who replaced guys like Berry Gordy, Ahmet Ertegün, and Al Bell weren’t big enough fans of the music. And you have journalists limited in the knowledge of the music they cover. So the attitude is, “Yesterday don’t count; now counts, and tomorrow we’ll wait for the next big thing, because today’s not that great either.” That’s a terrible attitude to have. The music business is healthy. The record business is in trouble.
AC: Where does that leave PE? Twenty years in? What’s your legacy?
CD: Twenty years and 57 tours. We got our passports in 1987 and have been spreading our dream around the world ever since. We tour the U.S. every four years and meet people who ask, “When are you going to come back through here?” We might not, but that doesn’t mean we’re not getting down. We come around like an eclipse. We have seven continents to deal with.
AC: Have you always gotten the credit you deserve?
CD: Hip-hop doesn’t get the credit it deserves for being diverse and thorough. When hip-hop gets respect as an art form, we get it by default. But people want to talk to us about Flavor of Love, Ali Rap, or our take on Barack Obama. That stuff has nothing to do with our consistency. Controversy has nothing to do with getting down and being good.
We’re the Rolling Stones of rap. I don’t know if Flavor is Keith or Mick, but our performance is a combination of Run-DMC, the Roots, and Rage Against the Machine. We developed the standard for live hip-hop. We’ve truly been the group that represents the meaning of hip-hop and rap music, the respect of music as the universal language, and taken that attitude all over the world.
Americans are poor on understanding time, history, and geography. We try to be strong on all those points. Around the world, PE resonates. America needs to get with it. We never fell off. America did.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has ‘em.
Ed, if you want to protect yours from the big, bad world outside of Ed, keep ‘em in the paper and off of our internet.
1 CommentRight On The Spot, Sign My Name With A Dot

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Question: Who’s the man in the above picture?
I admit the visual reference might not be enough for anyone that isn’t a Hip hop head, so I’ll give you even more of a hint:
Sorry for the set-up; I wouldn’t expect many people to know that he’s Boots Riley from The Coup.
I also wouldn’t expect many people to know the depth of the man and his music.
Or even that Boots blogs.
I’m using Boots as just one example of someone who represents one particular slice of a culture, Hip hop, that most people don’t know anything about — no matter what they think.
More on Boots and his colleagues in a bit.
What You Hear Is Not A Test
Today, Ed Cone ventured into a pretty lightweight deconstruction of “rap” lyrics, and only after numerous people and media outlets — local and from afar — made a stink about Don Imus catching flak for his pointed remarks a few weeks back, arguing that African-Americans and/or “rappers” actually drive the use of this harmful language.
Ed’s introduction to his column:
[…] “For my newspaper column, I listened to the lyrics of Billboard’s top ten rap tracks and tried to contextualize the Imus affair.” […]
I can’t remember the last time someone in Hip hop, out-of-the-blue, verbally assaulted a specific group of innocent people like the Rutger’s Women’s Basketball team. Admittedly, I’m not twisting the context of the offense to the use of a particular word or phrase and instead, keeping it focused on the nature of the attack from a broadcaster.
Along those lines, IMO, it would be more productive to review the context of Imus’ bile by looking at the rest of the shock-jock industry, like this gem from Neil Bortz:
Boortz: For instance, or for goodness sakes, jump in and I’m gonna say — I’m gonna start out with something controversial. I saw Cynthia McKinney’s new hair-do. Have you seen it, Belinda?
Skelton: No.
Boortz: She looks like a ghetto slut.
Skelton: Well, how is it?
Boortz: It’s just — it’s hideous.
Skelton: Is it braided? Or –
Boortz: No, it’s not braided. It just flies away from her head in every conceivable direction. It looks like an explosion in a Brillo pad factory. It’s just hideous. To me, that hairstyle just shows contempt for — no, it’s not an Afro. I mean, no, it just shows contempt for the position that she holds and the body that she serves in. And, I’m sorry, there’s just no other way to — it’s just a hideous and horrible looking –
Marshall: It looks better than the braids she was wearing.
Boortz: No, the braids had some dignity. They had some class.
Marshall: The braids had dignity?
Boortz: They had more class than this thing.
Marshall: This says, you know, kinda 2000s, you know, stepping up to the plate. Contemporary look, you know?
Boortz: She looks like Tina Turner peeing on an electric fence.
Pam has great context for those of you who might think of these comments as harmless.
But the point of this post isn’t about Don Imus, nor is it about those people out there that are obfuscating the context of his comment. There’s a whole other angle of misinformation in Ed’s post, based more in ignorance than intent, that I wish to dissect.
I’m One Of A Kind And I’ll Shock Your Mind
Whether he knows it or not, Ed made a bunch of generalizations in his column. This particular paragraph stood out the most to me:
[…] “I’m bothered not just by what rappers say but why they say it. The lyrics and the popularity of the genre aren’t happening in a vacuum; they reflect something about the realities of a larger culture that is coarse, consumerist and often violent. Public Enemy’s Chuck D famously said that rap is like “CNN for black people.” Maybe part of the problem is that these days, the best-known member of the socially conscious Public Enemy is Flava Flav, who once rapped about the harsh reality of life in poor neighborhoods but now does clownish “reality” shows on corporate television.” […]
People like to talk about Hip hop as if they know everything about anything, so I’m not surprised by Ed’s perspective — even with him being alive during The Sugarhill Gang’s debut.
How Ed jumps from “a larger culture that is coarse, consumerist and often violent” to Public Enemy — without pause for at least a paragraph on the current administration of the Executive Branch — is beyond me.
You know, it wasn’t Flavor Flav that told America to go out and buy shit just a few days after the towers went down on 9/11.
I’ll play along for shits and giggles, though.
So, Flav has become the king of reality tv, but as the de facto hype man in the carefully orchestrated membership of Public Enemy — something that would take another post entirely to detail — that shouldn’t shock anyone.
Flav was never the point man of PE, the guy “rapping about the harsh reality of life in poor neighborhoods.” For every 911’s A Joke, there are a hundred songs with Flav explicitly playin’ his role in the group as comic relief while shadowing Chuck.
So how does that play out 20 years beyond the zenith of Public Enemy’s career?
While Flav does his reality tv and flashes his grill, Chuck D does his speaking gigs and radio shows covering everything from anti-DRM to politics. The whole of Public Enemy prospers from their individual focuses — which draw in new audiences from distinct demographics — far more than simply being a sum of its parts.
But if you’ve seen any of the Flavor of Love shows, you know that he doesn’t represent himself as a foul-mouthed “rapper.” I honestly don’t see how Flav acting like Flav with a viking cap and oversized clock necklace and sunglasses has anything to do with the topic at hand — except for serving as a convenient segue from the bridge of the CNN line.
All that said, Ed is pretty much on point when he ruminates over “rap” lyrics and the ills of a larger culture.
The point begging to be made about this particular element — the crux of his column — is that he doesn’t realize to what degree and how narrow of a focus that truly is within the culture of Hip hop.
What we need is the Teacher to break this down to a digestible format:
More KRS-One:
(by thecnote)[…] “ ‘Hip hop has nothing to do with rap. Rap is an element. There is a consciousness that makes you rap, graffiti or break, for example.’
KRS-One talked a great deal about the importance of being one’s own self, the most essential part of Hip hop culture. ‘Hip hop begins with the courage to be yourself. Being you has consequences,’ KRS-One said.
Want to find out if you’re Hip hop? You know you are if ‘you gravitate toward it. You see graffiti art and you try to make out the words, you see breaking and you say, ‘Man, I could do that,’ KRS-One said.
And, of course, one should know the proper way to actually identify the culture. Hip hop is a culture; therefore, it should function as a proper noun. Hip hop is the music, and referring to the culture in the hyphenated form, KRS-One claimed, is degrading. The rapper’s explanations of the technicalities of the Hip hop world could have left audience member confused; if Hip hop is not the music, what is?
Listeners were enlightened about the differences between Hip hop and rap. ‘Hip hop is not rap music,’ KRS-One said. ‘Rap is controlled by corporations. A rapper rhymes for corporations, and an emcee rhymes for culture. A rapper talks about himself, what he has. An emcee talks about what’s already on your mind. An emcee raps about what you need, not about fantasy.‘ Ultimately, a point stressed heavily throughout the night, Hip hop is something that is lived, a consciousness of the world around us.” […]
That’s a much more expansive description of Hip hop than “rappers” being misogynistic and foul-mouthed, but culture can’t be locked down to one set of definitions either — passing the mic back to Boots Riley, from a long, lost interview at Davey D’s spot:
(by bagelradio)[…] “When the first Sugarhill Gang record came out and it was on the radio I was already living in Oakland then but there were people who had recently moved out here from the mid west and the south and I remember us saying they had a hambone record out on the radio. My whole thing with that is there’s a lot of elements of hip hop… like the four elements of hip hop is really just a commercialization and a way to commodify things because you have to put things into easy categories in order to sell it. It’s a lot easier to sell as an invention that kind of slipped and fell together by a series of events that happened in one place than it is to tell it as a history of a people. So that’s something that I feel is left out of hip hop. That was my first connection to rapping [hamboning]. Another more obvious one is beatboxing. That was something that was very much a part of hip hop. I first started hearing the four elements maybe from the early 90s. I don’t know who started that but it’s full of shit to me.” […]
Contradicting, yet accentuating points of view within a culture — a hell of a lot deeper than “bitch” and “ho” framed within the bullshit corporate constructs of a genre.
The CNN For ALL People Who Care To Tune-In
If all this isn’t new to you, glad to have you in my digs. To those of you who are learning something new, you might just dig checking out a few CTD alumni.
One bit of advice: focus on the message, the intent and the wordplay — leave the curse count for Tipper Gore.
- De La Soul
- Immortal Technique
- The Roots
- Public Enemy / Paris
- The Coup
- Brand Nubian / Common
- Rage Against The Machine
- KRS-One
- Talib Kweli
- DJ Danger Mouse
- Chuck D
- Mos Def
Thank God their standards for speaking truth to power and shedding light are higher than CNN.
3 CommentsChuck D(RM): Don’t Believe The Hype

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ZDNet.uk
Chuck D lays down the law on DRM
by David Meyer
Digital rights management (DRM) has its benefits, but should not overly restrict users, according to musician and mobile entrepreneur Chuck D.
The rapper, who was a founding member of hip hop group Public Enemy and now runs a content service, told delegates at the Mobile Content World conference in London that he had always looked at technology as “something you can apply to a better world if you stay on top of it and don’t let it stay on top of you”.
“[Napster founder] Shawn Fanning revolutionised the way we get music — he doesn’t get the respect he deserves even today,” said Chuck D on Tuesday.
He said he does “believe in some sort of DRM” but pointed out that MP3 was the most popular compression format because it does not limit how the customer can use the file once bought.
“You’ve got artists who are just starting out who are understanding that DRM is a way of life,” Chuck D said, adding that musicians “understand it doesn’t have to be the Pirates of Penzance as it was”, a reference to the free-for-all early days of Napster and similar P2P engines.
The issue of DRM has become increasingly contentious with the growth of new media distribution services. Some see it as a way to protect the intellectual property of content creators, while others see it as unnecessary infringement by distributors on the rights of the consumer.
Speaking to ZDNet UK after his presentation, Chuck D described the current situation with DRM as “just a lot of fucked-up shit“.
[…]
Until the bottom-feeding leetches of the RIAA are kicked out of the music industry, artists and consumers are going to be screwed by DRM.
(via Pete)
1 CommentFav Video Thursday: Chuck D
quick thought... June 21st, 2006 - 12:51AM
ChicanoBlogs: …”The young people in the documentary–b-boys, rappers, beat-boxers, graff artists –- all spoke about hip hop and its political implications with such urgency, it made KRS-One look like a G-Unit wanker. So, I guess real hip hop isn’t dead… it just needs to be revived… especially in the United States. Where’s Chuck D when you need him?”
Lyricist Wednesday: Can’t Hold Us Back
Artist: Public Enemy
Song: Can’t Hold Us Back

==========
[Farrakhan Jesse Jackson]
Today, we are together
We are unified and on one accord
When we are together, we’ve got power
That is why we gather today to celebrate our own sense of…
[PE]
We spit flows on foes
Listen to the message that ya never know
Got a plan for the man and it’s federal
The rhyme animal, back to play the part again
Clear the madness - and put the message in
D the enemy is back to rip the mic
We come together - so don’t believe the hype
Check my tone it’s a war here at home
We united and strong - and never move alone
We rep justice, equality and freedom now
Put fam first, man woman and child
Never mild keep it hostile ’till we raise
Where we say what we mean and we mean what we say
It’s been a long time coming that we mob as one
Guerrilla funk, hard truth nigga, that’s what’s up
No peace on the street ’till the justice come
From the ballot to the bullet, if it’s on, it’s on
Chorus:
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, see
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, believe
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, my brother
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, that’s real talk on the one
Yo I’m a target I got proof, my building got an ‘X’ on it
Bloomberg threw the hex on it,
It’s like a pistol with effects on it
On a nigga with arrest warrants
Hittin’ pigs in they in they chest quadrant where they vest wasn’t
Now he dead cousin
All you snitches hit the red buttons, we some Uncle-Tom killas
Mini-nina concealers, political cap-peelers for this freedom fo’ rilla
Yo if police stop the whip you got to eat them trees
I ain’t got no ‘G’ to give to these crackers and court fees
You know my steez, security first, prepare for the worst
Never caught slippin’ if you stay on alert
Malcolm X said send send ‘em to the cemetery if they touch you
A revolutionary virtue - a dull blade’ll hurt you
I’m up early workin’ my machete
In war, it ain’t no warning, you just got to be ready
Chorus:
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, my nigga
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, my nigga
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, you see
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, yeah
It’s bigger than rap-
You really think you gon’ be left alone
On sayin’ that you believe and ain’t gon’ have to get your scrap on?
Then yap on, and we’ll see if that’s the right route
While I get my clap on and turn snitches lights out
I tried to be nice, now we gon’ have to bleed ‘em
I’m willing to do a killin’ for the price of freedom
Comin’ from the left, nigga, hood is how we kept it
So prison or death is just something I done accepted
So we’ll murder a snake, and we’ll kill a skunk
This ain’t the word of a fake, it’s Guerrilla Funk
So right now is the time and your turf’s the location
Y’all about to see the Rebirth Of a Nation
Even if some got de-rebelized
The revolution still will not be televised
U.S. Government tellin’ hella lies
And it’s evident when you look in this president’s devil eyes
Chorus:
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, yeah
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, nah homie
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, my brother
I ain’t lettin nothin hold me back or block me,
they gon’ have to pop me to stop me, that’s real talk on the one
[Farrakhan Jesse Jackson]
That is why I challenge you now to stand together
Raise your fists together
And engage in our national black…
Do it for courage and determination
I am! (I am!)
Somebody! (Somebody!)
I am! (I am!)
Somebody! (Somebody!)
I may be poor! (I may be poor!)
But I am! (But I am!)
Somebody! (Somebody!)
I may be on welfare! (I may be on welfare!)
But I am! (But I am!)
Somebody! (Somebody!)
I may be unskilled! (I may be unskilled!)
But I am! (But I am!)
Somebody! (Somebody!)
I am! (I am!)
Black! (Black!)
Beautiful! (Beautiful!)
Proud! (Proud!)
I must be respected! (I must be respected!)
I must be protected! (I must be protected!)
What time is it?!
When we stand together, what time is it?!
Lyricist Wednesday: Louder Than A Bomb
Artist: Public Enemy
Song: Louder Than A Bomb
==========
Professor Griff:
They claim we’re products from the bottom of hell,
‘Cause the black is back and it’s bound to sell.
Picture us coolin’ out on the fourth of July,
And if you heard we were celebrating that’s a world wide lie!
Yo Chuck!
The fed-dead-arals, man, trying to pull a 2-2-6 on ya G,
Yo man,
Show ‘em what you got!
Sh-Show ‘em what you got!
Chuck D:
This style seems wild.
Wait before you treat me like a stepchild!
Let me tell you why they got me on file,
‘Cause I give you what you lack,
Come right and exact,
Our status is the saddest,
So I care where you at, black!
And at home I got a call from Tony Rome,
The FBI was tappin’ my telephone.
I never live alone.
I never walk alone.
My posses always ready, and they’re waitin’ in my zone.
Although I live the life that of a resident,
But I be knowin’ the scheme that of the president,
Tappin’ my phone whose crews abused,
I stand accused of doing harm.
‘Cause I’m louder than a bomb.
C’mon, C’mon.
Louder! Louder. (C’mon, C’mon…C’mon)
Louder! Louder. (C’mon, C’mon…C’mon)
Louder! (C’mon Track Cut)
Professor Griff:
Hey yo D!
Show ‘em you on the block
Show ‘em you on the block, D!
Chuck D:
I am,
A rock hard trooper,
To the bone, the bone, the bone.
Full grown - consider me - stone!
Once again and,
I say it for you to know.
The troop is always ready.
I yell `Geronimo’.
Your CIA, you see I ain’t kiddin’.
Both King and X they got ridda’ both.
A story untold, true, but unknown.
Professor Griff knows…
“Yo, I ain’t milk toast!”
And..
And not the braggin’ or boastin’ and plus,
It ain’t no secret why they’re tappin’ my phone,
although I can’t keep it a secret,
So I decided to kick it, yo.
And yes it weighs a ton, I’ll say it once again,
I’m called the enemy - I’ll never be a friend,
Of those with closed minds, don’t know I’m rapid,
The way that I rap it,
Is makin’ ‘em tap it, yeah.
Never servin ‘em well, ’cause I’m an un-Tom.
It’s no secret at all.
Cause I’m louder than a bomb.
C’mon, C’mon.
Louder! Louder. (C’mon, C’mon…C’mon) (X6)
Louder! (C’mon Track Cut)
Professor Griff:
That’s right boy
The D is on the block, boy
Don’t forget it!
Kick that shit, D!
(It’s Yours)
Chuck D:
Cold holdin’ the load,
The burden breakin’ the mold.
I ain’t lyin’ denyin’, because they’re checkin’ my code.
Am I buggin’ ’cause they’re buggin’ my phone,
for information,
No tellin’ who’s sellin’ out or power buildin’ the nation so…
Joinin’ the set, the point blank target,
Every brothers inside - so least not, you forget, no.
Takin’ the blame is not a waste,
Here taste,
A bit of the song so you can never be wrong.
Just a bit of advice, ’cause we be payin’ the price,
‘Cause every brother mans life is like swingin’ the dice, right?
Here it is, once again
this is,
The brother to brother,
The Terminator, the cutter.
Goin’ on an’ on - leave alone the grown
Get it straight in ‘88, an’ I’ll troop it to demonstrate
The posse always ready,
98 at 98.
My posse come quick,
because my posse got velocity.
Tappin’ my phone,
Never leave me alone,
I’m even lethal when I’m un-armed.
‘Cause I’m louder than a bomb.
C’mon, C’mon.
Louder! Louder. (C’mon, C’mon…C’mon) (X7)
Professor Griff:
Tell ‘em what happened, D!
Prove ‘em, man
Go and prove ‘em, man
That’s right, go and prove ‘em, D
Show ‘em all what’s hot, D
Yeah.
Haha.
Tell ‘em how loud you is, D
They can’t mess with you, D
Yeah!
(All Right)
Chuck D:
‘Cause the D is for dangerous,
You can come and get some of this.
I teach and speak,
So when its spoke, it’s no joke.
The voice of choice,
The place shakes with bass,
Called one for the treble
The rhythm is the rebel
Here’s a funky rhyme that they’re tappin’ on.
Just thinkin’ I’m breakin’ the beats I’m rappin’ on.
CIA, FBI, all they tell us is lies.
When I say it they get alarmed.
‘Cause I’m louder than a bomb!
[…]
1 CommentChuck D: Again And Again
The master of framing the moment within a gut-felt emotion is back, providing clarity beyond the crystal clear. Take a listen to Chuck’s response to the natural and federal disaster of Katrina, the Children of Eris remix, “Hell No We Ain’t All Right”
Chuck D’s rhymes flow so natural and powerful they take form within your psyche while you latch onto his beat. That’s because Chuck doesn’t twist to the beat of a loop; Chuck’s direct, unflinching words twist a beat of their own.
Can’t you feel him in this latest drop?
I follow his words, like “the new world is upside down and out of order” as a flip from the past, as back then he was taken aghast, as the polar opposites were set-up, the Axis of Evil corrupt…
Man…
I often wonder if the 17 to 23 year-old crowd nowadays gets the same dose of reality in the Hip hop nation.
Sure, the crew of Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Def and The Roots bring consciousness to each of their narratives on multiple levels. Underground hip-hop, like Head-Roc, sticks to the
grimy reality, and J-Live lives and keeps it real as a teacher in Brooklyn, but where is the channeled anger of this generation?
Maybe he/she/they are out there and the gray in my chin is talking all of this junk — if so, feel free to let me know. To the extent that Chuck D and Public Enemy pumped out perspective and knowledge in the late 80’s to the mid-90’s (along with KRS-One and Brand Nubian), I just don’t hear the same form of consistent passion in these modern day cats.
Yes, Mos Def was crazy conscious with his tabulations in Mathematics, and has kept ‘em coming leading right up to the in-the-moment response and drop of Katrina Klap. Artists such as Kanye West have proven to have a conscious, yet even Kanye still goes back and forth with club songs chock full of faux diamond dissing, gold-digging lyrics.
Chuck D earned the lead Public Enemy #1 tag with his straight up, hardcore responses to social issues of the time; I’m talking about consistent responses to real-time events, like:
- dropping “By the Time I Get To Arizona” when Arizona refused to honor Martin Luther King’s birthday
- or when Chuck tried to shut down the malt-liquor industry in “1 Million Bottlebags” for targeting young black males with their poison
- even in their twilight, in 2002 Public Enemy dropped “Son of a Bush” at a time when political commentary in hip-hop was ripe for the picking, but rare due to the climate of blind patriotism. Only Eminem made any Bush accountability waves, but he waited until a safer year of 2004 to drop his Mosh video, pre and post 2004 elections.
Enough.
Like that dude on Enter the 36 Chambers said, “Ah yeah, again and again!”
Bring the noise, Chuck.
UPDATE: Here’s the original Public Enemy release of “Hell No We Ain’t Alright“
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